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stewards inquiry *some pics*

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stewards inquiry *some pics*

Postby fir3start3r uk on Mon May 26, 2008 4:12 pm

when the incident happened it was agreed by all people involved that culchi (being a mod) would save the replay and judge wot he seen fairly. i also saved the replay so heres a few pics. Image this me on the brakes early while sangeli lines me up. Imagesangeli feathers the brake while still directly behind me, he made no attemp to go either side of me. Image me still hard on the brakes going into the hairpin sangeli right on me not slowing down. Image i fly of the track sangeli brakes as he hit me and gets round the corner. youd expect this online on a friday nite with some imature 13 year old but not in this championship
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Postby porsche28 on Mon May 26, 2008 4:38 pm

yea i saw that on the replay and that was becuase shangheli has a way more aggressive driving style. if i were shangheli i would of backed off. like if u see the replay there is this point where i catch up to firestarter and im about to hit him just like shangheli but i just braked really hard and went off the track. i went off the track but its better then ramming the crap outta fire!!
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Postby fir3start3r uk on Mon May 26, 2008 4:56 pm

it was nothing to do with being agresive it was a blatant attempt to take me out, hes done it to me a couple times now and theres some bad blood between us but delibrately ruining someones race is unacceptable, i hope culchi also noted the laughin between sangeli and achill after both incidents
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Postby Clay Gryphon on Mon May 26, 2008 5:06 pm

I have to say that if that wasn't intentional then it was a major lapse of concentration as that is a very slow corner.He had plenty of space to avoid the accident if he needed to.Has anyone heard his side of the story yet? I think he deserves his say and if it was a mistake he should admit it and explain how it happened.All drivers involved in incidents should submit an explination in a private message to the steward who then decides on the action to take,and that should be an end to it.All this squabbling doesn't solve anything.

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Postby Achill111 on Mon May 26, 2008 5:10 pm

jep, we are laughing because you are a bit funny when you are pissed of... you say that only we are taking you out... maybe you should remember in season 1, madzda laguna seca, you had a accident with me and sangheli, sebring, you had an accident with sangheli....
just remember this :roll:

in my opinon, sangheli has braked a bit late, jeah, but he can do it, if you have seen the car, the weight and the stats... i know it because ive driven the car.

I dont know why you are getting of the gas, braking, then accelate, then braking then staying outside instead of getting in...
I really want to know what you are doing there.... :roll:

it can happen that someone has "forgotten" to brake because he was sleeping. but thats only a game... i was 8th on madzda before the 1. corner... yeah, i was angry but i haven't anger you anytime, you get into the lobby, shouting to me why i haven't done the right settings... whats the problem, you can also say that with a friendly voice.
Thats not the way i want to race and if that happen in the future i dont really want to do this Championship...
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Postby fir3start3r uk on Mon May 26, 2008 5:14 pm

he had all the time and space in the world to come up my inside brake late and take the corner clean but no he stayed rite behind me and stayed OFF the brakes, delibrate attempt to take me out. notice you didnt bring up the incident at road atlanta where you smashed me from behind and used EXACTLY the same excuse YOU USED LAST NITE which was you were lagging you didnt even see me on your screen and didnt get any damage, sound familar ? if your lag is that bad that its causing you to crash into the racer in first place on more than one occasion then maybe you shouldnt race.
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Postby Clay Gryphon on Mon May 26, 2008 5:27 pm

I did notice some lag last night but I couldn't tell you what car it was as I forgot to save the replay.But there definately was some lag at the begining of the race.

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Postby Achill111 on Mon May 26, 2008 5:33 pm

because i have not the best connection i shouldnt race? thats great, all germans shouldnt race cause the are cheating, the have a bad connection the have lost the world war 2... thats really crazy :cry:
if every guy thinks like you, only the best stay alive... thats a crazy way of thinking... no tolerance.... thats great

i can say a LOT of things which are pissing me off about you. but i'm tired about this. culchi has got the Replay, everybody can send him a PM, can make vids, pics. so he will do the right desicion, if not the ok, its the wrong decision, no problem, its just a game...
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Postby fir3start3r uk on Mon May 26, 2008 5:37 pm

^^^^ lmao wtf is this guy on, i only said its a bit 0f a coincidence youv took out first place twice and used the same excuse. its ok you wont have to put up with me much longer i think ill leave the championship its not the same as last year to much change ill proberly look elsewhere.
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Postby Achill111 on Mon May 26, 2008 6:02 pm

Video in my Scene

i know, the quality is bad, but if i convert it to AVI, its about 20mb big...
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Postby Sangheli on Mon May 26, 2008 7:06 pm

that was lobby 3 .... very important for the whole season ....

but ok if you like to hear again what happend:

one corner befor you make a mistake and get back on the road without looking around
me with my AGGRESSIV styl xDDDDDD break down !!! look it that's a fact!!!!!!
than you speed up i'm behind
you break too early so i think ok you will notice that and stop slowing down
(look your telemetri it's very funny to see what you're doing there)
than i notice (litle bit too late its getting close!!)
so i make a full break--> what happens with a car without electronic helpings?
yeah it goes straight on so i hit you
i wasn't able to say sorry or something different couse you were shouting around all the time (like last season..german ....basterd??? faggit? m.fucker?)

aggressiv styl i don't wanna hear again!!! cause i really often slow down if drivers make mistakes not to hit them
in addition to that its often the reason why i'm one of the last guys at beginning of a race (just for example)
moreover i have no reason to drive aggressiv cause i'm here for having fun
gamercard pro:--> halo3

and something like "than you shouldn't race (achill)!!" hmmmm......
just let me say with that sentens you owned yourself!!!!
you know that everybody is able to read that
i hope you're proud of yourself ;)
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Postby BDR Marchie on Mon May 26, 2008 8:21 pm

Time for a cool down guys!

Not many people know me, so i shall tell you. I have come here after being kicked from the ETCC. I got kicked out because i was very angry all the time, and many people annoyed me. So much infact, that i was incredably racist for no reason.

This has taught me much. Fire starter, i know you are annoyed, you have shown it continuously since the race has finished. You must however listen to what i say, because i have good experience of not what to do as explained earlier.

It is a game. A very realistic game, but yet still a game. Whatever you do, dont take it too far, be offensive, or shout at people. It looks to me that Sangheli was in the wrong, but he knows it. No need to bring up past incidents to prove points.

I am sure a mod will look into this, and give a final decision. From my experience, this is what i think should be done to solve the matter, to not create any hard feelings on both sides;

- Sangheli, directly say sorry to Fire starter, as it is your fault for hitting him, no matter the nature of your braking, it is YOUR responsibility!

- Fire starter, you must stop arguing, as this really doesn't help matters, and if anything, creats enemies for yourself.

Ok, that is me. I think it would be reasonable if the mods could make a fast decision. But, as a warning which you should heed, make it fair. It is a game, so keep it friendly and fun for all.

It would maybe be a good idea if you elect someone to make all decisions, such as Jenson. It is a serious matter, and is important to have the same person to decide apon decisions so to keep all future stewards inquirries to the same fairness.

Please stop aguing, and keep all posts clean.

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Postby Sangheli on Mon May 26, 2008 8:40 pm

your right marchy
but don't tell me what i have to do or say!! that makes ME realy angry
in this forum there still exist a thread where this accident is discussed,too
THERE i allready said that it was my fault (perhaps not only my fault but i think 90% or more ;) )
sorry i wanted to say but he was shouting around and said some nice things to me...(everything in other thread)
and in season 1 he never said sorry instead he called me german..

marchy: perhaps you didn't see this other thread.. than its ok
thanks for your post , i hope you don't take this to aggressiv on your mind
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Postby BDR LUCK1ER on Mon May 26, 2008 9:15 pm

fir3start3r uk wrote:he had all the time and space in the world to come up my inside brake late and take the corner clean but no he stayed rite behind me and stayed OFF the brakes, delibrate attempt to take me out. notice you didnt bring up the incident at road atlanta where you smashed me from behind and used EXACTLY the same excuse YOU USED LAST NITE which was you were lagging you didnt even see me on your screen and didnt get any damage, sound familar ? if your lag is that bad that its causing you to crash into the racer in first place on more than one occasion then maybe you shouldnt race.


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Postby mtr pr3dator on Mon May 26, 2008 9:27 pm

NGS Marchie wrote:
Not many people know me, so i shall tell you. I have come here after being kicked from the ETCC. I got kicked out because i was very angry all the time, and many people annoyed me. So much infact, that i was incredably racist for no reason.

This has taught me much. Fire starter, i know you are annoyed, you have shown it continuously since the race has finished. You must however listen to what i say, because i have good experience of not what to do as explained earlier.



Now why couldn't you have done that earlier? :D

Finally though Marchie, someone who isn't crying about a game.

Move on people.
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