Forza2 British GT Championship

Ok guys this is how I see it....

You need to make sure before the races start who will be in charge of the lobbies.I know this might be difficult if all the hosts are in say ,lobby A,so you must make it clear how to set up the final race lobbies in a topic tread so everyone is clear.I ended up hosting the Lobby last night and had to rely on Firestarter to help me set it up.Secondly there were people comming and going all the time so we didn't know who was in our lobby or not.I kept checking the site and it finally got sorted,but it was a bit confusing.This needs to be sorted BEFORE the lobbies are opened up.

The next problem that should be looked at it the use of the Microphones.I asked at the start of the race if the mic's should be on or off,to which it was said that they can be kept on.In my opinion the only time you should use your mic is when you announce you are going into the pits.I turned mine off for the race(but forgot to turn it on to say I was pitting..Apologies for that).Because the Mics were on ,the inevitable happend,there was a major incident and then the abuse started flying which spoilt the atmosphere of the race.There are bound to be incidents in any race that need to be looked at but having major rows over the airwaves won't sort them out.ALL incidents MUST be sorted out with a stewards inquiry.

Lastly would it be possible to organize the threads so you have;

1. Heat results.(We have this already)
2. Final Lobby clarification.
3. Race Results
4. Race comments.

This just makes it clearer and more organized.

Finally I would just like to say that although our race was contraversal to say the least,I still really enjoyed it .I hope that for the rest of the season we can sort out the teething problems and make it a memorable one.

Agreed, I only found out I was lobby captian from the website, there are a lot of people who can't run XBL and a PC at the same time.

Jenson I know you're busy, that this is a hobby and not a paid position. I really urge you to spend a bit of time clearing up some of the threads, such as car choice and posting up clear guidelines like the rules and regs page before people start to leave this series.

Some great ideas there! I think my lobby was really lucky in the fact that there was no real incidents, and the racing was intense to say the least. Would have even been better if everyone who said in showed up, because a full lobby would have been amazing!

Would have been easier had I been able to attend and yes I know there's a few threads that go OTT and intermix but we a full Mod team and its up to all of us to keep an eye on things no just me Monk and culchi.

While it is agreed that the threads could be clered up it is also important for all members to maintain abit of order too.

If you are going to be out of a race having prviously posted in, message the mods (not just me) and we can take your name off. This is preferable to the mess of in - out -in - out posts we have had that makes it hard for us to sift through.

I will go over the facts from the first race and see what was what. Horselegs, I wasn't aware that you were meant to be a lobby captain I had made it clear that the mods would be the lobbycapains and only involve other people when and if it became necessary. So I am sorry for that.

All relevant posts for rules and sign ups and all that are found in the relevant sections. There are even posts in the anouncements and drivers threads highlighting which posts to go through.

As for the use of mics it is accepted practice in this and other racing series that ALL competitors use their mics throughout the races either or informing of passes (not mandatory) announcing their pitstop or telling the mod captain what their times are. It's just common sense to have it running during a race though I can understand the banter can sometimes get annoying.
I will clarify the rules in order that EVERYONE is in the know.
Normal service will resume shortly.

I think for the first race of the season, it didnt go that bad all in all.

One of ym biggest suggestions is that we scrap the overall race time in the 10 lap heats. and have instead:

10 lap heat to determine where you will be for the final race. The fastest lap time you set in that 10 lap heat will then be forwarded to other lobbies and then set in order of fastest to slowest, and this determines the order for all the lobbies.

There are too many flaws to the overall race time, for example we had a big practice session proir to the racing on sunday night, and horseleggs was out in front the whole race then on the final lap, final corner he came off or got knocked off, resulting in him ending up in 4th or 5th place with obviously a lower overall race time, which is undair, good job is was just a bit practice we had going on.

Whereas the fastest lap idea has no flaws, u have 10 chances to set a fast lap.

Keep everything else that same, it works fine.

Ida noted, but this is a racing league, not a hotlapping league.

NGS Marchie wrote:Ida noted, but this is a racing league, not a hotlapping league.

ok, so off the top of your head how many racing championships are you able to name that use an overall race timer for qualifying to determine your grid position for the race?

a 10 lap qualifying session is the perfect solution. fastest lap times recorded and then wait to see which lobby you go into for the race.

We could just run the 10 lap race with collisions off. It would reward consistency which is one of the most important aspects of racing and you wouldn't have to worry about people slowing you down or taking you out.

gatesy3 wrote:

NGS Marchie wrote:Ida noted, but this is a racing league, not a hotlapping league.

ok, so off the top of your head how many racing championships are you able to name that use an overall race timer for qualifying to determine your grid position for the race?

a 10 lap qualifying session is the perfect solution. fastest lap times recorded and then wait to see which lobby you go into for the race.

Ok, so how many racing championships do you know that is in lobbies that can only hold 8 drivers??? Ehhhh, this is no critism, but you have to have a system that can get around the 8 car limit. Having total race timer shows (to a degree) who would have won if all the cars were together. This gives a better idea of the better drivers, but not ignoring the fact that racing incidents happen.

i totally disagree. a 10 lap fatest lap qualifying session works fine no matter how many people and how many lobbies we have. i honestly think you're just clutching at straws here because the fastest lap idea is the best solution at the moment.

gatesy3 wrote:i totally disagree. a 10 lap fatest lap qualifying session works fine no matter how many people and how many lobbies we have. i honestly think you're just clutching at straws here because the fastest lap idea is the best solution at the moment.

I actually believe that you idea is probably better suited, and would work well. I want to know what Jenson thinks here.

Fastest lap is what the ETCC currently uses. Abiet only 4 laps, so the pressure is more on, but the hotlappers fare better.

Anyway, it's going really well. It means that you ALWAYS get the same level people in you sprint, who have the same pace as you, and you always have good races.

You guys don't want to copy the ETCC, but, you came up with this system yourselves, and i am just telling you that it already works brilliantly.

You have my vote on this.

I said this before in another thread,the 10 lap qualifiying session is the best and simplest solution.Then for the race you do a 1 lap parade race and go over the line in the order of the qualifiying times for the lobby you have been put in.The host can read out the grid order from his PC.

[quote="Clay Gryphon"]I said this before in another thread,the 10 lap qualifiying session is the best and simplest solution.Then for the race you do a 1 lap parade race and go over the line in the order of the qualifiying times for the lobby you have been put in.The host can read out the grid order from his PC.

Clay, this is the process in order at the moment, well thats how we did it on sunday night. 10 lap heat, overall race timer posted to website, then they are sorted in order of quickest to slowest. Then you get put into lobbies for the final race, you do 1 parade lap to get the grid order right for the 25 lap race.

I think this system is spot on, my input is to scrap the overall race time to determine the positions for the 25 lap race. And instead have a 10 lap heat, but your fastest lap determines your position for the 25 lap raace.

RossK26 wrote:

Clay Gryphon wrote:I said this before in another thread,the 10 lap qualifiying session is the best and simplest solution.Then for the race you do a 1 lap parade race and go over the line in the order of the qualifiying times for the lobby you have been put in.The host can read out the grid order from his PC.

Clay, this is the process in order at the moment, well thats how we did it on sunday night. 10 lap heat, overall race timer posted to website, then they are sorted in order of quickest to slowest. Then you get put into lobbies for the final race, you do 1 parade lap to get the grid order right for the 25 lap race.

I think this system is spot on, my input is to scrap the overall race time to determine the positions for the 25 lap race. And instead have a 10 lap heat, but your fastest lap determines your position for the 25 lap raace.

That was my point ,in a previous thread I also said u should scrap the 10 lap race time and replace it with a 10 lap qualifying session and submiting the fastest lap time.Sorry about the confusion.