Forza2 British GT Championship

Had a bit of a think about our race meetings in the BTCC. Currently they start at 9pm. Is there anything preventing them from starting from 8pm?

Takes about an hour and a half from qualifying to finish currently, meaning it concludes currently for about 10.30pm. Some of us are on earlier and get a bit of practice in from 8 till 9, but I was thinking we could better use this time.

What I was thinking is with the extra hour we could have a bit of fun. Imagine a race meeting including support series. Timetable would be something like...

- BTCC Qualifying (4 laps)
- Clio Cup (3-5 laps)
- BTCC Race (10 laps)
- Porsche Carrera Cup (3-5 laps)
- BTCC Race (10 laps plus mandatory pit)
- Classic Touring Cars (3-5 laps)
- BTCC Race (10 laps plus mandatory pit, reversed grid)

The extra races would be a bit of fun, just to break the tension of the main events. Reckon we could fit that in if we started a bit earlier.

The BTCC is becoming quite competitive, and a hell of a lot of fun. Maybe this is an idea for next season, but thought I'd put it out there. Any ideas?

Its a good idea ck and certainly something the BGTA is currently looking into.
While I don't think we will be making many changes for the rest of this season I will enquire as to whether we can start earlier for the BTCC.

The rest of the concept you have brought up deserve considerable merit and thanks for the great suggestion

Nah, didn't expect such a radical change to this season, but i did have visions of an awesome classics race, with Mustangs, E-Types and Fairladys belting along the track.

It certainly is something that can be looked into.
The BGTA is keen to have more races on the billing but we are obviously limted by time constraints and availability of people.
BUT something I am keen to address and promote is other members starting/running series through this site. They would benefit from promotion via us and obviously we could help when we can.

So if it is something you would like to kick off for S3 then plan away and give me a layout kind of thing.

Well, think first thing should be to determine the types of support races people would like to try out. As a stand alone race series, don't think some of these would work. But as part of a single race meeting, they would be fun, competitive and allow some people who may not be as strong in one series a chance in another.

Secondly, clearly it is dependant on the track at each meeting as to how much time it would take, but I reckon if you set aside 2, maybe 2 and a half hours for each meet, you should be able to fit it in. Will get back to you on that once I've investigated.

And lastly it does mean that competitors in whichever series is running would need to have a car for each support series as well as the main event. Yeah, that means extra work building, tuning, testing and painting each car, but we're all Forza fans and that's what we love.

If someone doesn't want to compete in one of the supports, then fine, they can sit it out, and it's not like at, say three laps, they'll have long to wait.

Anyway, possible support series. Some ideas (culled from autosport for inspiration) include...

- Historic/classic racing. Pre-1980 C500 cars?
- One model series, like Clios (full platform and handling, race tyres, forza wing, no engine upgrades, all cars specced identical), Seat Cupras (as purchased in game), Mini Coopers, Porsche Carreras, Beetles, etc.
- One make series, ie Volkswagen Cup, BMW Cup, Ferrari Challenge, and so on.
- Regional races - Nippon Cup, Muscle cars, lightweights...
- Group races - stock cars, hot hatches, convertibles, etc.
- Drift/Time Attack (a bit more difficult to administer, but possible)

Any suggestions from anyone as to possible supports?

just alittle thought on these support races if all the cars were the same speck like in the clio cup they have to all have the same upgrades like the same tires and so on so its all down to driver skill to win the races which i think you would see a diffrent winner in nearly every race because the raceing will be so close . like in the career mode with the factory speck races its all down to driver skill not upgrades to win the races , please let me know what you think or will this be a lot more trouble to set up? many thanks kris.....

just alittle thought on these support races if all the cars were the same speck like in the clio cup they have to all have the same upgrades like the same tires and so on so its all down to driver skill to win the races which i think you would see a diffrent winner in nearly every race because the raceing will be so close . like in the career mode with the factory speck races its all down to driver skill not upgrades to win the races , please let me know what you think or will this be a lot more trouble to set up? many thanks kris.....

Well, the BGTA is currently looking at next season, and one of the main aspects we are discussing is the different support series that we can run. Please keep ideas for this coming, but please remember, if you want to run a support series, and have a really good idea of what you want, then you are able to run it yourself through this site.

Please feel free to contact Jenson about this through pms. For now though, keep the ideas coming!

This is right.
The BGTA can only run a certain amount of series due to manpower BUT thats not to say that a WELL ORGANISED support series cannot be added.

If enough people wish to run a single make series and the package can be put together I would be happy to add it to the site

My original idea was to make the BTCC evenings feel more like a real BTCC meeting, with support races intermixed between the Touring Car races. I don't really mean to lose sight of that being the original idea, by introducing a totally new race series when all I envisaged was an augmentation to the existing setup.

But I've had another idea.

How about a one-off BGTA Festival Of Speed. We narrow it down to six different races to comprise the events, with competitors having to build a car for each race. It's open to everyone. Over the course of the racing, points will be available, per lobby if required. Those points are accrued from each race, to determine an overall winner.

And we'll have a prize, perhaps of 10,000,000. Maybe we could contact Turn 10 about the possibility of a gift car for the winner.

Qualifying is non-existant to streamline matters, starting-order set to random. Once a lobby is set up, players stay within that lobby until the festival is complete. Points from each lobby are calculated, and if there's a draw for first place, a tie-break is played. Maybe a one lap sprint of the circuit or something.

Okay, so some possibilities for the races. I'm pretty set on having a classics race, PI of C550, cars built pre-1980. Followed by a lightweights race, perhaps the Lotus Elise, stock. Then a Nippon race, Japanese cars from 1980-2000 only allowed, B700. Another single-make race, leaning towards the SEAT Leon Supercup on that. Penultimately a SportMaxx-type race, need to thrash out some ideas on the spec of that one, and concluding with a one make series, ie Volkswagens, PI of B600.

I'll donate the prize fund (need to sell some cars first!).

This would be one-off (for just now), maybe hold it towards the end of the BTCC and BGT series? Could maybe set an entry charge - we build the car for a race, then sell them on the AH at the entry charge. Whatever we make goes towards the prize fund. So if we have 10 entrants paying, for instance, 100,000 each to enter, we have a prize fund of 1 million. Could even divide the prize fund down to have six individual prizes for winners of each race, and an overall winning prize.

What do you think of that idea?

Ckbrenneke why dont we run that porsche supercup which i suggested last race as a support race

I like the festival idea, have a whole day or something dedicated to a big tournament including lots of different types of cars

Well, the original idea was discounted as unworkable, some people felt like it'd be too much work.

But hey, if enough people are up for it, why not? Lots of shorter races with random lobbies, I think it'd work.

The supercup idea would be good, but again, if people agree.